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champ-l-digest         Saturday, May 22 1999         Volume 01 : Number 354 
 
 
 
In this issue: 
 
    Jedis 
    Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
    Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
    Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
    Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
    [FLUFF] A question of 10 
    Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
    Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
    A Question of 10. 
    Re: A Question of 10. 
    Re: A Question of 10. 
    Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
    Question of 10 
    Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
    Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
    Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:09:46 -0500 
From: Mitchel Santorineos <mitchels@megsinet.net> 
Subject: Jedis 
 
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Has anyone created a straight-up Jedi package for Champions?  Is anyone = 
currently playing a Star Wars campaign using Hero?  If so I would = 
appreciate it if you could send me so info or direct me to a web page. 
 
Mitchel Santorineos 
ICQ# 22259362 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 99 09:17:20  
From: "qts" <qts@nildram.co.uk> 
Subject: Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
 
On Fri, 21 May 1999 02:16:05 -0400, William K. Bushway wrote: 
 
>I'm trying to develop a Thor/Shazam analogue/amalgamation named The Olympian 
>for a 4-color game with a classic feel.  Basically, when mild mannered Joe 
>Incognito puts on the magical circlet of laurel leaves he found on the peak 
>of Mt. Olympus, he is transformed into a being of incredible power.  Like 
>the Eric Masterson Thor (late of Thunderstrike, lately dead), his mind is 
>unchanged. 
> 
>The Olympian is a typical brick - superstrength, invulnerability, superleap, 
>and an uncanny knack for throwing manhole covers like discuses and lampposts 
>like javelins.  However, he also can call upon the Greek Gods for certain 
>special abilities - similar to Captain Marvel's "Wisdom of Solomon, Speed of 
>Hermes, etc."  He can only use one such set of abilities at a time. 
>Examples - 
> 
>The Speed of Hermes - The Olympian gains superspeed, and a few typical 
>speedster tricks. 
> 
>The Beauty of Aphrodite - The Olympian shapechanges into a stunningly 
>beautiful *female* version of himself (a power not often used, but more 
>handy than you might think). 
 
Why? Aphrodite was honoured my men as well. You could just make him 
extremely handsome. 
 
>The Wisdom of Athena - The Olympian gets a boost in perception and deductive 
>ability. 
> 
>The Skill of Ares - The Olympian gains incredible skill-at-arms, but also 
>becomes a little short-tempered. 
> 
>My question: How do you recommend I construct such a character?  Is 
>multiform appropriate for a character whose personality doesn't change 
>drastically (even if he pretends it does, in order to conceal his identity)? 
>Should I be using OIHID or IAF:crown of laurels for the majority of his 
>powers, or both? 
 
OIHID, I'd suggest. 
 
>Also, how do you recommend I simulate his god-like powers?  My first 
>inclination was to go a multipower with Ultra slots (as he can only use one 
>at a time).  But each godly aspect is best simulated with a combination of 
>powers.  Ex: 
> 
>Hermes: +SPD, +DEX, +Running, AOE attacks 
>Aphrodite: Shapechange, +COM, levels in Seduction 
>Athena: +INT, levels in Deduction 
>Ares: Combat Skill Levels, Martial Arts, etc. 
> 
>Which framework is most appropriate for this kind of thing; Multipower? VPP? 
>A slew of ECs? 
> 
>And finally, can you recommend any other powers?  I need some more godly 
>aspects - too keep it from getting too munchkiny, I'm trying to stick with 
>major Greek gods and goddesses (no demigods, heroes, or titans).  My initial 
>rule of thumb was "Only gods with planets named after them (or rather, their 
>Roman counterparts)," but I want a good mix of abilities. 
 
Zeus: lustful, flight. 
Hera: becomes vengeful 
Vulcan: extra strength, very good technician, master 
weaponsmith/armourer. 
Chronos (Uranus): temporal powers - speed-reading, eidetic memory 
Poseidon: swimming, waterbreathing, water control 
Hades: Speak with Dead, becomes sombre, macabre 
 
qts 
 
Home: qts@nildram.co.uk. 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 99 09:18:23  
From: "qts" <qts@nildram.co.uk> 
Subject: Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
 
On Fri, 21 May 1999 08:09:43 -0400, golem@fred.net wrote: 
 
>There are others, which I am sure folks on the list can provide given the 
>opportunity.  The goddess whose daughter married Pluto, who is responsible 
>for spring and growth and such, would do well with some 'plant control' 
>powers.  
 
Demeter and Persephone. 
qts 
 
Home: qts@nildram.co.uk. 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:26:13 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu> 
Subject: Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
 
	This might not be a great help but... 
 
	There was a discussion on this list a while back about various 
Greek and Roman Gods and their individual preisthoods.  Chracters based on 
this theme would have certain "diferent" abilities.  A wide selections of 
gods were included, with their mentalities and possible abilities (power 
sets). 
 
	You might want to check the HERO archives. 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:49:31 -0500 
From: "Guy Hoyle" <ghoyle1@airmail.net> 
Subject: Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
 
On 5/22/99 at 9:17 AM qts wrote: 
 
 
>>The Beauty of Aphrodite - The Olympian shapechanges into a stunningly 
>>beautiful *female* version of himself (a power not often used, but more 
>>handy than you might think). 
> 
>Why? Aphrodite was honoured my men as well. You could just make him 
>extremely handsome. 
 
Could also be Adonis instead of Aphrodite; Captain Marvel himself had a 
couple of mortals (Solomon, Achilles) in his pantheon. 
 
> 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:14:59 -0400 
From: werther@hilander.com (Jason Schneiderman) 
Subject: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
"So, this is what's called a lunchtime poll..." 
- - Heather Chandler, _Heathers_ 
 
Random thought that popped into my head the other afternoon. 
You're relaxing somewhere - the beach, the mall, Main Street, study hall, 
pick some place appropriate. Suddenly, three aliens with big heads and 
pastel-colored skin appear to you and inform you that, as a reward for 
living an examined life or some other pretext, your life is about to 
change. And, coincidentally, these big-headed aliens happen to view the 
world in Hero System terms. 
 
The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way 
you like. 
What would you buy? 
 
Jason Schneiderman 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:22:15 -0500 
From: Mitchel Santorineos <mitchels@megsinet.net> 
Subject: Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
5 pts of wealth, Immune to Aging, and 2 pts to Intelligence. 
 
Mitchel Santorineos 
ICQ# 22259362 
 
- -----Original Message----- 
From: Jason Schneiderman <werther@hilander.com> 
To: champ-l@sysabend.org <champ-l@sysabend.org> 
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 12:20 PM 
Subject: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
 
>"So, this is what's called a lunchtime poll..." 
>- Heather Chandler, _Heathers_ 
> 
>Random thought that popped into my head the other afternoon. 
>You're relaxing somewhere - the beach, the mall, Main Street, study hall, 
>pick some place appropriate. Suddenly, three aliens with big heads and 
>pastel-colored skin appear to you and inform you that, as a reward for 
>living an examined life or some other pretext, your life is about to 
>change. And, coincidentally, these big-headed aliens happen to view the 
>world in Hero System terms. 
> 
>The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way 
>you like. 
>What would you buy? 
> 
>Jason Schneiderman 
> 
> 
> 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:24:12 EDT 
From: AndMat3@aol.com 
Subject: Re: CHAR: The Olympian [help requested] 
 
In a message dated 5/22/99 12:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
ravanos@NJCU.edu writes: 
 
> 	There was a discussion on this list a while back about various 
>  Greek and Roman Gods and their individual preisthoods.  Chracters based on 
>  this theme would have certain "diferent" abilities.  A wide selections of 
>  gods were included, with their mentalities and possible abilities (power 
>  sets). 
 
wasn't there also a module about the Greek gods? or am i mis-remembering  
something else... don't know how useful it would be, if you can find it, if  
it exists. 
 
later, 
andy 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:28:15 EDT 
From: Sbennie@aol.com 
Subject: A Question of 10. 
 
The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way  
you like. What would you buy 
 
  3     Unaging  
  3     Immune to Disease  
  4     +2" Running 
 
Scott Bennie 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:33:01 EDT 
From: AndMat3@aol.com 
Subject: Re: A Question of 10. 
 
In a message dated 5/22/99 1:28:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Sbennie@aol.com  
writes: 
 
> The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way  
>  you like. What would you buy 
 
 5 money (i've been filthy poor, i'd like to see what filthy rich looks like) 
 5 immunity to stupidity (so that none of my stupid mistakes came back to  
haunt me) 
 
alternately, i'd just by clinging and stand on the ceiling (like that Lyonal  
Richie video) :) 
 
andy 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:46:29 -0400 
From: "David Utter" <neo@prolaunch.com> 
Subject: Re: A Question of 10. 
 
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> The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way  
>  you like. What would you buy 
 
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 STR 4 TK for 6 points, which means goodbye to remotes forever and lots of pranks. 
 Immunity to UV rays for 1 point, the perpetual tan and no fear of skin damage. 
 Perk: Part owner of a beach bar for 2 points 
 Immunity to Alcohol, for 1 point, no more hangovers! 
 
David Utter 
 
PS: Andy Mathews, are you getting my messages to you? 
  
 
 
 
"Is that air you think you're breathing?"   
Visit www.ProLaunch.com - cool sites, free stuff, free E-mail on your start page! 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:12:17 -0500 
From: "Michael (Damon) & Peni Griffin" <griffin@txdirect.net> 
Subject: Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
At 01:14 PM 5/22/1999 -0400, Jason Schneiderman wrote: 
>Random thought that popped into my head the other afternoon. 
>You're relaxing somewhere - the beach, the mall, Main Street, study hall, 
>pick some place appropriate. Suddenly, three aliens with big heads and 
>pastel-colored skin appear to you and inform you that, as a reward for 
>living an examined life or some other pretext, your life is about to 
>change. And, coincidentally, these big-headed aliens happen to view the 
>world in Hero System terms. 
> 
>The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way 
>you like. 
>What would you buy? 
 
Cheapskate aliens.  Last time this question came up on the list, we got 15 
points.  :) 
 
Damon 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 14:23:59 -0400 (EDT) 
From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu> 
Subject: Question of 10 
 
	I'd tell the aliens to wait until 5th edition, so I could get 
immune to Aging and a stripped down form of Post Mortem Regeneration. 
	I'd then spend my days working up enough CP to buy the necessary 
skills to make my life more comfortable.  I would get enough cash to have 
a nice home.  Make sure I wasn't convicted of any crime (life imprisonment 
would suck).  I would still avoid death as dying as much as possible.  It 
would hurt... (unless I had leftover point for Armor, Only vs. STUN). 
	I would include a clause in my will that would prohibit my 
cremation, burial, or reservation (via embalming) null and void, prefering 
to be put to rest "naturally" in a comfortable above ground arrangement. 
	I would have people to ensure this happened. 
	I would stay away from any volcanoes, flash fires, and acid pools.  
I would also not walk under heavy objects that could pin me for eternity.  
Liquid Nitrogen, icy water, concrete shoes in the sea, helicopter blades, 
wood chippers: same deal. I'd try to stay on the continent, as a plane 
crash could mean my end.  
	I'd buy stock in HERO games, and I would make sure it was the #1 
RPG in the year 2019.  I might even join the company under an alternate 
ID, possibly calling myself Robert or Steve. 
	I would stay out of the Linked debate-- for eternity. 
 
 
 
	...either that, or twenty more points of Comliness.  Hopefully the 
Aliens will not impose a NCM on me, and I will be The Most Handsome Man on 
the Planet Earth (sans any other 10 point extra that came along).  I'd get 
bonuses to my PRE attack and a cushy modeling job. 
	I'd even do product endorsements for HERO. 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:10:11 -0500 (CDT) 
From: "Dr. Nuncheon" <jeffj@io.com> 
Subject: Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
On Sat, 22 May 1999, Jason Schneiderman wrote: 
 
> The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way 
> you like. 
 
(True HERO Geek question:) Active or Real?  ;) 
 
> What would you buy? 
 
Well, you could mess with NASA and the physicists a /lot/ by getting 
FTL... 
 
Regeneration would be nice...then again, I'm not often in situations where 
that's really going to be an issue. 
 
Hmm.  How about Duplication?  I'm not sure how many points I would be in 
HERO, but if I tacked on a few limitations, I'm sure I could afford a few 
duplicates. (Extra Time, probably.)  Makes housework easier, and I would 
always have a lot more time to get things done... 
 
J 
 
Hostes aliengeni me abduxerent.              Jeff Johnston - jeffj@io.com 
Qui annus est?                                   http://www.io.com/~jeffj 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:55:03 -0500 
From: "Michael (Damon) & Peni Griffin" <griffin@txdirect.net> 
Subject: Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
At 05:10 PM 5/22/1999 -0500, Dr. Nuncheon wrote: 
>On Sat, 22 May 1999, Jason Schneiderman wrote: 
> 
>> The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any way 
>> you like. 
> 
>(True HERO Geek question:) Active or Real?  ;) 
> 
>> What would you buy? 
> 
>Well, you could mess with NASA and the physicists a /lot/ by getting 
>FTL... 
 
And still have 10 points left.  Given that you can't use FTL in an 
atmosphere, and you personally are unlikely to ever be out of the 
atmosphere, this is a Power you'd never be able to use, and thus shouldn't 
cost you any points.  ;) 
 
Damon 
 
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:42:14 -0500 
From: "Michael Nunn" <mlnunn@scrtc.com> 
Subject: Re: [FLUFF] A question of 10 
 
>>> The upshot? You - yes, you - have ten points to spend. On yourself. Any 
way 
>>> you like. 
 
 
I would be a rich immortal... 
 
Michael 
 
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