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champ-l-digest Tuesday, July 13 1999 Volume 01 : Number 452
In this issue:
Re: [Silliness] The Kumite Committee
Re: DC: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
Re: Things I would do if I were a Hero
Re: Kumite
Re: Kumite
Re: Kumite
Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
Space Hazards
Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
RE: Kumite
Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
taste bad
Re: taste bad
taste bad - Reply
taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possiblypointless])
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
Re: taste bad
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:17:31 -0500
From: "Logan Darklighter" <logand@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: [Silliness] The Kumite Committee
> (BTW the correct spelling, I believe, is "Kumite.") :-]
Does that mean rules changes to the tournament have the possibility of
getting hung up in "Kumite"?
:-)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:33:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Mulder <kevinmu@ccpl.carr.org>
Subject: Re: DC: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
Heya! Okay, I'll bite. My personal fave martial artists from fiction
are, in no special order:
Shang-Chi(you have to ask why? :>)
Ryu(of STREET FIGHTERS; probly the best strictly-human fighter in
that particular universe)
Batman(Still one'a the best anywhere!)
The Badger("Greetings from the land of beatings!")
Jackie Chan(Another natural...)
Chiun, Master of Sinanju(from the DESTROYER novels; I give him the
nod over Remo, he's the bad-temperd one!)
Det. Martin Riggs(Mel Gibson from the LETHAL WEAPON movies. Okay,
so maybe Batman and Chiun could mop the floor with him, but he could
hold his own against a lot of others.)
Lady Shiva(The deadliest female fighter you'll find anywhere,
although the Black Widow comes close...)
Liu Kang(Basically Ryu's counterpart on Earth-MK)
And finally, the unnamed Master of Tae-Kwan-Leap from the classic
Frantics comedy routine! I can just see this guy up against Wolverine:
"You're in for some serious hurtin", bub!' *SNIKT!* "Indeed? Boot to
the head." *THWOCK!* *THUD!* "Students, what have we learned from the
Lesson of Logan Grubberman?" :> Later!
Kevin J. Mulder
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:19:07 +0000
From: Lance Dyas <lancelot@inetnebr.com>
Subject: Re: Things I would do if I were a Hero
I have noted that not acting like a hero... including accepting the minor
problems caused by some of those actions required of heroes will result in no
"Heroic Luck" and FAILURE this works fine in a being an Evil Overlord since
the point is to win instead of loosing like the Overlord normally does
Michael Surbrook wrote:
> http://users.erols.com/vansickl/hero.htm
>
> --
> Michael Surbrook - susano@otd.com - http://www.otd.com/~susano/index.html
>
> "'Cause I'm the god of destruction, that's why!"
> Susano Orbatos, _Orion_
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:59:14 EDT
From: Leah L Watts <llwatts@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Kumite
>I've decided I want to run a big a$$ tournament for martial artists.
>Mostly an intellectual exercise. I probably won't use everyone. However,
>if you were to send your top ten warriors (human level only) who would
>they be? Any characters DC, Marvel, IMAGE, Hero, Fuzion, etc. I'd like
>to keep this as published heroes only but I'll accept almost anyone,
The original version of Moon Knight (Marvel) was highly trained in
hand-to-hand combat, though I can't recall if they ever identified a
specific martial art for him.
Leah
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:31:24 -0500
From: "Michael (Damon) & Peni Griffin" <griffin@txdirect.net>
Subject: Re: Kumite
At 08:59 PM 7/12/1999 EDT, Leah L Watts wrote:
>>I've decided I want to run a big a$$ tournament for martial artists.
>>Mostly an intellectual exercise. I probably won't use everyone. However,
>>if you were to send your top ten warriors (human level only) who would
>>they be? Any characters DC, Marvel, IMAGE, Hero, Fuzion, etc. I'd like
>>to keep this as published heroes only but I'll accept almost anyone,
>
>The original version of Moon Knight (Marvel) was highly trained in
>hand-to-hand combat, though I can't recall if they ever identified a
>specific martial art for him.
No, they didn't. We were told that his years of mercenary and commando
experience had given him "a wide variety of hand-to-hand combat techniques."
Among comic book martial artists, I've always liked the original Manhunter,
Paul Kirk. It's been years since I read those stories, and I'd have to dig
the books out to be sure, but I think he was described as a master of
"ninjitsu", which was supposed to encompass all major martial arts forms.
Damon
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:11:58 -0500
From: Gary & Kim Miles <miles.kim.gary@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: Re: Kumite
Michael (Damon) & Peni Griffin wrote:
> At 08:59 PM 7/12/1999 EDT, Leah L Watts wrote:
> >
> >The original version of Moon Knight (Marvel) was highly trained in
> >hand-to-hand combat, though I can't recall if they ever identified a
> >specific martial art for him.
>
> No, they didn't. We were told that his years of mercenary and commando
> experience had given him "a wide variety of hand-to-hand combat techniques."
>
> Among comic book martial artists, I've always liked the original Manhunter,
> Paul Kirk. It's been years since I read those stories, and I'd have to dig
> the books out to be sure, but I think he was described as a master of
> "ninjitsu", which was supposed to encompass all major martial arts forms.
Then, Damon, run thyself down to thy local emporium of four-color delights,
because one of DC's releases this month is "Manhunter: The Special Edition",
which collects the entire run of Manhunter from it's days as a backup in 'Tec,
as well as a brand new story that was plotted by Archie Goodwin just before his
untimely death, and draw by Walt Simonson his-own-self. Check it out...it's
great.
Gary
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:10:42 -0400
From: geoff heald <gheald@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
At 11:00 PM 7/11/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Okay, so what does this have to do with anything?
>Glad you asked. And sorry to ramble on by the way.
>I've decided I want to run a big a$$ tournament for martial artists.
>Mostly an intellectual exercise. I probably won't use everyone. However,
>if you were to send your top ten warriors (human level only) who would
>they be? Any characters DC, Marvel, IMAGE, Hero, Fuzion, etc. I'd like
>to keep this as published heroes only but I'll accept almost anyone,
>Bruce Lee? Sure he'll be there. I like setting these things up and since
>my last one didn't work, here's a new one. You don't even have to write
>the characters up (I will, that's part o' the fun), I just want a list
>of your fave characters who you'd like to see in a streetfighter-esque
>tournament.
>
>
>Ready?....FIGHT!!!!
>Chad
>
I once saw a small press comic that had Bruce Lee as a crime fighting hero,
so I guess he's in.
Captain America you mentioned.
Batman.
I really can't think of any others right now, but all the Avengers and
X-Men are supposed to have some training in martial arts. Maybe Hawkeye?
And there's always Taskmaster. His ability was to mimic any move he had
seen, but the Handbook of the Marvel Universe said he was limited by human
norms so he could only duplicate Spiderman's moves if said move were
possable without superhuman stats.
The Black Knight. IIRC, he was a great swordsman but not superhuman. I
remembered him because Taskmaster ususally carries a copy of Cap's shield,
Hawk's bow, and BK's sword.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:58:28 -0400
From: geoff heald <gheald@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
At 10:11 AM 7/12/99 -0700, you wrote:
> (BTW the correct spelling, I believe, is "Kumite.") :-]
>---
IIRC, in Bloodsport is is spelled "Cumite".
And, for the uninitiated, it's pronounced "koom-ih-tay".
============================
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============================
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your weapons and surrender to your nearest R.N.C. representative. Failure
to do so will result in your total destruction. Thank you.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:58:16 +0100
From: "Simon David Taylor" <beron@labyrinth.free-online.co.uk>
Subject: Space Hazards
Does anyone here have any rules for hazards of space travel, in particular
things like the effects of zero-g and exposure to vacuum? I don't have a
copy of Star Hero (which I guess would cover things like this), and for some
reason my copy of Fantasy Hero doesn't cover them either.
Simon D. Taylor
beron@unforgettable.com
http://start.at/labyrinth
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 05:01:05 -0700
From: "Thomas Willoughby III" <Willoughby@cookeville.total-web.net>
Subject: Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
>And there's always Taskmaster. His ability was to mimic any move he had
>seen, but the Handbook of the Marvel Universe said he was limited by human
>norms so he could only duplicate Spiderman's moves if said move were
>possable without superhuman stats.
>
>The Black Knight. IIRC, he was a great swordsman but not superhuman. I
>remembered him because Taskmaster ususally carries a copy of Cap's shield,
>Hawk's bow, and BK's sword.
Look Ma, I get a mention, I get a mention! :)
The Taskmaster's sword was, oddly, a traditional broadsword, but he fought
with it in the style of El Aguila, a fencer with a sabre, which made utterly
no sense. :) Black Knight is a *much* better person to knockoff sytle from.
I, or rather, he, also uses a Billy Club ala Daredevil, a Pistol like the
Punisher, a lasso like Roy Rodgers, and has, I'm told, used both web
shooters and snap-out 'Wolvers', tho I've never seen either. Plus magnesium
flares, and who KNOWS what else he might have tucked away, here or there.
Boomerangs? Baseballs? Playing Cards hurled like Bullseye? Oh me oh my.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:39:20 -0400
From: "Johnson, Adam" <AJohnson@clariion.com>
Subject: RE: Kumite
My additions:
Black Canary (in her current form in Birds of Prey)
Deadpool (the Merc with da Mouth)
Moon Knight, in any of his incarnations
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- -----Original Message-----
From: Leah L Watts [mailto:llwatts@juno.com]
Sent: Monday, 12 July, 1999 20:59
To: champ-l@sysabend.org
Subject: Re: Kumite
>I've decided I want to run a big a$$ tournament for martial artists.
>Mostly an intellectual exercise. I probably won't use everyone. However,
>if you were to send your top ten warriors (human level only) who would
>they be? Any characters DC, Marvel, IMAGE, Hero, Fuzion, etc. I'd like
>to keep this as published heroes only but I'll accept almost anyone,
The original version of Moon Knight (Marvel) was highly trained in
hand-to-hand combat, though I can't recall if they ever identified a
specific martial art for him.
Leah
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:53:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
Subject: Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possibly pointless])
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Thomas Willoughby III wrote:
> The Taskmaster's sword was, oddly, a traditional broadsword, but he fought
> with it in the style of El Aguila, a fencer with a sabre, which made utterly
> no sense. :) Black Knight is a *much* better person to knockoff style from.
> I, or rather, he, also uses a Billy Club ala Daredevil, a Pistol like the
> Punisher, a lasso like Roy Rodgers, and has, I'm told, used both web
> shooters and snap-out 'Wolvers', tho I've never seen either. Plus magnesium
> flares, and who KNOWS what else he might have tucked away, here or there.
> Boomerangs? Baseballs? Playing Cards hurled like Bullseye? Oh me oh my.
Seeing the Taskmaster at a Martial Arts tournament would be
severely sick, as he is able to assimilate all the styles he had seen. As
long as he didn't die, even _if_ he lost, he would still be a spectator-
watching some of the greatest Martial Artists and using his photographic
reflexes to copy and flawlessly blend the best aspects of all the styles
he observed, and he would retain that knowledge indefinitely. He can even
do so through video tape... I'm surprised he's not a big sports freak, as
he could "play like the best" there ever was. Conventional boxing,
Ultimate Fighting championships, underground shoot fighting matches,
illegal pit fights, those video cassettes you can buy through magazines,
gymnastics videos, and Martial Arts tournaments are all reference points
for Taskmaster. Add to that the unique styles of Martial Arts that exist
in the Marvel Universe possessed by certain heroes and villains, and you
have a really, really tough man to beat. Especially since once he's
studied your particular style, he knows it... nuisances and all, and can
effectively counter it with his "Martial Arsenal."
I equate this to a "What If..." scenario; I think it would almost
be as bad as "What If Mimic had lived to be part of the Secret Wars."
Taskmaster does have a flaw. Erratic or unexpected moves from a
Martial Artist messes him up. Any Martial Artist worth her salt will know
at least something about "broken rythm."
Even if he looses, Taskmaster wins in the long run.
BTW, has anyone ever tried to make Taskmaster for HERO? He is one
of my favorites, but has potential problems (No Skills in a VPP). You
could probably model his abilities with OCV and DCV bonuses with a minor
limitation, buying them up to permanence, and use the VPP for any Powers
that are considered "Skills."
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:26:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se>
Subject: taste bad
Let's suppose I have a character that tastes sufficiently bad that
animals / aliens or other creatures that use biting attacks don't
want to bite the creature.
How should this be bought ?
Curt Hicks
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:30:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Brown <benbrown@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Curt Hicks wrote:
>
> Let's suppose I have a character that tastes sufficiently bad that
> animals / aliens or other creatures that use biting attacks don't
> want to bite the creature.
>
> How should this be bought ?
>
> Curt Hicks
>
It's definitely some sort of Damage Shield. Possibly on a flash vs.
taste/smell, although that may not be exactly it.
- -Ben
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:35:57 +0100
From: Stephen McGinness <MCGINNESSS@parliament.uk>
Subject: taste bad - Reply
Obviously they would have to find out that you taste bad and I reckon the only
way they are going to do that is by biting you!!
I think that it is a good example of giving someone a disad. I saw it proposed
(can't remeber by whom) that to give someone a PSYCH DISAD you could use
a drain and for every point drained you gain a point of the disad. If you buy up
the fade rate then it would take some time for the disad to fade (modelling the
fact that the memory of the bad taste will fade). You could limit the level of the
drain to "needs an EGO roll" etc to bite you.
Stephen McGinness
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:45:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
Subject: taste bad
Try an attack that is a combination of Flash and a low level
Penetrating EGO attack, AVLD Flash Defense, based on CON, with a possible
modifer on OCV of the opponent after the first bite.
or
GM fiat it as a Change Enviornment on Self Only: Bad Taste.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:47:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
Subject: Re: taste bad
...or a Mind Control: Do Not Bite due to Icky Taste (based on
Flash Defense instead of Mental Defense for a 0 point Advantage), Damage
Shield, etc.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:45:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joe Mucchiello <jmucchiello@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
- --- Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se> wrote:
>
> Let's suppose I have a character that tastes sufficiently bad that
> animals / aliens or other creatures that use biting attacks don't
> want to bite the creature.
>
> How should this be bought ?
Causing a change in behaviour is usually a Mind Control. Make it a
damage shield and add a limitation that the damage shield does not work
unless the original attack causes body. (Unless their skin surface is
also sufficiently nasty.)
This is probably very expensive for such a rarely used power though.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:48:40 -0400
From: "Scott C. Nolan" <nolan@erols.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
It's a triggered Mind Control, with one command: Don't bite me.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:54:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: taste bad
> From: Ben Brown <benbrown@primenet.com>
>
> It's definitely some sort of Damage Shield. Possibly on a flash vs.
> taste/smell, although that may not be exactly it.
> From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
>
>
> Try an attack that is a combination of Flash and a low level
> Penetrating EGO attack, AVLD Flash Defense, based on CON, with a possible
> modifer on OCV of the opponent after the first bite.
>
I don't understand the Flash connection you guys are suggesting.
> From: Stephen McGinness <MCGINNESSS@parliament.uk>
>
> Obviously they would have to find out that you taste bad and I reckon the only
> way they are going to do that is by biting you!!
>
Agreed. I guess the next step would be to have your opponent 'know' that
you taste bad before it actually bites you. We can work on that next.
Curt
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:47:50 -0700
From: "James Jandebeur" <james@javaman.to>
Subject: Re: Kumate (boy spelling is hard>>>)(Long [and quite possiblypointless])
> BTW, has anyone ever tried to make Taskmaster for HERO? He is one
> of my favorites, but has potential problems (No Skills in a VPP). You
> could probably model his abilities with OCV and DCV bonuses with a minor
> limitation, buying them up to permanence, and use the VPP for any Powers
> that are considered "Skills."
The fact that most people don't allow skills in a VPP is not actually much
of an impediment. And there is nothing I recall that says you CAN'T put them
in: skills count as Special Powers, you just need the GM's permission.
Still, most people don't allow it, but if it is allowed, get a construct
like this:
Variable Power Pool, x point reserve, Changes upon observing new physical
skills/techniques (-1/2), Only changed once abilities copied previously are
bought outside the pool (-1/2)
Buy this to between 10 and 20 points, for 12 to 25 points. This allows two
things: buying abilities that you don't have the experience for right now,
and (at least I'd allow it) the ability to, in effect, instantly spend
experience on the new skills rather than have to wait for training times.
However, the reason this might very well not be necessary is that all he's
really doing is being allowed to spend his experience on the skills very
quickly. If training time is not being tracked, this is a special effect: it
doesn't give him any particular advantages over anyone else, unless he can
do it on the spot, and even then the advantage may be minimal (frequently,
abilities are bought on the spot, though usually powers).
In addition, it is quite possible to be an expert at a wide variety of
fighting styles: take about 80 points in Maneuvers, choosing carefully to
get ones that are in many different styles. It may even be less than that,
and shouldn't be much more. Make sure that as many as possible are
individually useful. Take a variety of skills like Breakfall and Acrobatics.
Take Analyze Style and Cramming. Each time you observe a martial art, use
Cramming to study it and get the KS, and, if you already have the other
skills and maneuvers necessary to be an expert, suddenly you are an expert!
Of course, this doesn't give you any philosophical grounding or the
superpowers, but you wouldn't want those anyway. Once you have some
experience, buy the KS. This doesn't give you other physical skills, which
is the primary thing you might want the VPP for if you can get it. Even so,
Taskmaster tends to go heavily for the combat skills, so it may not be
necessary.
Whether or not you get the VPP, buy several Overall Combat Levels (or even
Overall Levels, but only apply those only to "physical" skills where
reflexes and coordination apply) because he's just so good. If you don't
mind bookkeeping, take the Limitation that he can't be better with a
maneuver or skill than the best he's ever seen and then keep track of the
skills and how high they go (as he personally gets better, some of the
levels would be bought without the Limitation).
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:53:47 -0700
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
At 11:26 AM 7/13/1999 -0500, Curt Hicks wrote:
>
>Let's suppose I have a character that tastes sufficiently bad that
>animals / aliens or other creatures that use biting attacks don't
>want to bite the creature.
>
>How should this be bought ?
Normally, I'd just hand-wave it as a plot device. However, if it comes
into play often enough to warrant a write-up, I'd use a Damage Shield AVLD
vs Taste Flash Defense, 0 END Resistant, Always On (anmials don't want to
be friendly with him either, especially if they lick to show affection like
dogs and cats do), and possibly an Activation Roll (if the Roll is missed,
then that species *doesn't* think he tastes that bad!). For a damage
level, 2d6 should be plenty for most cases.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:57:24 -0500 (CDT)
From: Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: taste bad
> From: "Scott C. Nolan" <nolan@erols.com>
>
> It's a triggered Mind Control, with one command: Don't bite me.
>
>
Possibly with some kind of limitation that it's only good against creatures
with a sense of taste ? (Though that might not be worth anything.)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:06:20 -0700
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
At 09:45 AM 7/13/1999 -0700, Joe Mucchiello wrote:
>--- Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se> wrote:
>>
>> Let's suppose I have a character that tastes sufficiently bad that
>> animals / aliens or other creatures that use biting attacks don't
>> want to bite the creature.
>>
>> How should this be bought ?
>
>Causing a change in behaviour is usually a Mind Control. Make it a
>damage shield and add a limitation that the damage shield does not work
>unless the original attack causes body. (Unless their skin surface is
>also sufficiently nasty.)
I don't think Mind Control is really needed here. One doesn't need Mind
Control to cause a change in behavior; a proper stimulus will suffice:
"Doctor, it hurts when I put my hand on a hot stove."
"Well, then, don't put your hand on a host stove."
Simulating the foul taste in itself should be plenty; let the beastie
make its own decision based on that information. (And if you don't think
that something tasting bad is enough to discourage biting into it, try
eating a peanut butter and tuna sandwich some time.)
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:05:50 -0700
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
At 11:54 AM 7/13/1999 -0500, Curt Hicks wrote:
>>
>> Try an attack that is a combination of Flash and a low level
>> Penetrating EGO attack, AVLD Flash Defense, based on CON, with a possible
>> modifer on OCV of the opponent after the first bite.
>>
>
>I don't understand the Flash connection you guys are suggesting.
Think of Flash as sort a "sensory attack," and Flash Defense as its
"sensory defense."
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:14:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
Subject: Re: taste bad
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Curt Hicks wrote:
> > From: Ben Brown <benbrown@primenet.com>
> > It's definitely some sort of Damage Shield. Possibly on a flash vs.
> > taste/smell, although that may not be exactly it.
> > From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
> > Try an attack that is a combination of Flash and a low level
> > Penetrating EGO attack, AVLD Flash Defense, based on CON, with a possible
> > modifer on OCV of the opponent after the first bite.
> I don't understand the Flash connection you guys are suggesting.
Flash defense would protect against the overwhelming taste. In
other words, if the SFX of a Flash Defense can protect against Nurse
Naughty's "Anticeptic Taste Negation Spray," it can probally protect
against Lil' Pepper's "Hot and Spicy Jalepeno Skin."
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:56:52 GMT
From: "S A Rudy" <sarudy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: taste bad
Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se> says:
> > From: Ben Brown <benbrown@primenet.com>
> > It's definitely some sort of Damage Shield. Possibly on a > flash vs.
>taste/smell, although that may not be exactly it.
> > From: Jason Sullivan <ravanos@NJCU.edu>
> > Try an attack that is a combination of Flash and a low level
> > Penetrating EGO attack, AVLD Flash Defense, based on CON, with > a
>possible modifer on OCV of the opponent after the first bite.
>I don't understand the Flash connection you guys are suggesting.
Because Flash is the offensive power used against senses. And
if something tastes bad enough that you'd want to avoid ever
repeating the experience again, it probably does overwhelm the
sense of taste for a bit.
> > From: Stephen McGinness <MCGINNESSS@parliament.uk>
> > Obviously they would have to find out that you taste bad and > I reckon
>the only way they are going to do that is by biting > you!!
>Agreed. I guess the next step would be to have your opponent 'know' that
>you taste bad before it actually bites you. We can work on that next.
That's easy. Reputation, moderate, 11-, "tastes awful" ... :)
As an alternate approach to this problem altogether, it might
be worth asking what the point of this is supposed to be. The
original poster mentioned biting insects. If "tasting bad" is
meant to keep animals and NPCs with biting attacks, then that's
one thing. But if the idea is more to prevent problems with
insect bites and the spread of disease, then possibly an Immunity
would be in order.
S A Rudy http://www.eclipse.net/~srudy
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