Digest Archives Vol 1 Issue 59
Desmarais, John
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champ-l-digest Wednesday, December 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 059
In this issue:
Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
RE: A new player in the arena...
RE: A new player in the arena...
Re: Supersonic Flight?
Re: Invictus (was A new player in the arena...)
RE: A new player in the arena...
Re: A new player in the arena...
RE: A new player in the arena...
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: 4 lasers = one?
Re: Supersonic Flight?
Re: Looser Villians
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: 4 lasers = one?
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: A new player in the arena...
CW
Video Camera
Re: Video Camera
San Angelo
RE: Video Camera
Takes No STUN
Re: Video Camera
RE: A new player in the arena...
Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: Takes No STUN
Re: CW
Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
Re: CW
Re: Video Camera
Re: Video Camera
CW patches
RE: A new player in the arena...
need ninja
RE: A new player in the arena...
Re: CW
Re: CW patches
Re: Video Camera
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: need ninja
Re: A new player in the arena...
Re: CW
Re: CW
Re: Takes No STUN
Re: CW patches
Re: CW patches
Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
Re: CW
Re: Video Camera
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 05:29:56 -0800 (PST)
From: shaw@caprica.com (Wayne Shaw)
Subject: Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
>
>Jesse's referring to an unfortunate incident in a game we played in
>together a little while ago. I still think my character inexplicably
>shooting an ally in the back merely because I rolled an 18 was overly
>harsh. My character was *not* incompetent with a bow, and a bad roll merely
>indicates bad luck or a mistake - not momentary incompetence. I wouldn't
>have objected to a broken bow string, or even to a teammate moving
>unexpectedly into the path of my arrow, but an unexplained "you shoot him
>in the back" seemed a bit cruel to me. (On my first attack of the campaign,
>no less.)
Well, that sounds more like insufficient explanation of why it happened than
an unreasonable call. Easiest reason would have been a gust of wind.
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:19:33 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Surbrook <susano@otd.com>
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
On Tue, 1 Dec 1998 gilberg@ou.edu wrote:
> >> Three, many Americans think that the Barenaked Ladies are
> >> the best band from Canada, ever.
> >
> >Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
>
> Isn't Triumph Canadienne, er, Canadian. (Sorry, French class
> memories.)
Yes, but anyone who says they are the 'best band' is smoking something.
Michael Surbrook / susano@otd.com
http://www.otd.com/~susano/index.html
"'Cause I'm the god of destruction, that's why!" - Susano Orbatos,Orion
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:03:59 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: Tim Gilberg <gilberg@ou.edu>
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
> > Isn't Triumph Canadienne, er, Canadian. (Sorry, French class
> > memories.)
>
> Yes, but anyone who says they are the 'best band' is smoking something.
Note, I didn't say best. Just wanted to put them on that list of
good ones, though.
-Tim Gilberg
-"English Majors of the World! Untie!"
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:14:10 -0800
From: "Filksinger" <filksinger@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Supersonic Flight?
From: James Jandebeur <james@javaman.to>
>There is a Supersonic Flight power in Champions: the New Millenium, and
>Creation Workshop did start with Fuzion with the Superpowers plug-in. It's
>possible it was a mistake, a holdover from that template. It's also
possible
>that this is going to be a power in the 5th Edition, and it was put in
there
>anticipating that. All of this is pure conjecture, though.
I'd lay long odds that it is 5th Ed. Additionally, one of the supers from
C:NM that is translated on the Hero website (I don't recall which one) has
an extra cost to his Regeneration to purchase "Can regenerate limbs". At a
guess, this is another one being added.
Filksinger
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:48:28 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: Invictus (was A new player in the arena...)
At 06:04 AM 12/1/98 GMT, <owner-champ-l@sysabend.org> wrote:
>Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:42:17 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
>From: Tim Gilberg <gilberg@ou.edu>
>cc: champ-l@sysabend.org
>Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
>> Hmmm...
>> All this, along with the rest of your post makes me wonder: is it about
>> time to have a 5th Edition update of Invictus? I don't think I'm really in
>> a good position to be the one to update him, but he might work well in,
>> say, a Chicago sourcebook. ;-]
>
> I feel a strange disturbance in the force...oh, it's just a thinly
>veiled hint by Bob.
>
> One problem. Who is Invictus? What book?
He's in Enemies: Villainy Unbound, a 3rd Ed book which (I *think* still
has a few copies available from the Hero Guys. Invictus is an all-American
flag-suited "hero" who, being truly a master of manipulation, secretly
controls a small but influential conspiracy for world domination.
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:30:35 -0500 (EST)
From: tdj723@webtv.net (thomas deja)
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
Why, Bri....it's obvious to me that Barenaked Ladies isn't the greatest
band in Canada...
That would be the Pursuit of Happiness....:-}
(Btw, did anyone else Stateside catch the interesting Canadian sitcom
'The Newsroom'? Wild, wild stuff.....)
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"What's that, Rat Fink?"
"mmmmm.....Bullets."
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:25:05 -0600
From: "Logan Darklighter" <logand@cyberramp.net>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael Surbrook <susano@otd.com>
Cc: Champeens <champ-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
>On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Brian Wawrow wrote:
>
>> Three, many Americans think that the Barenaked Ladies are
>> the best band from Canada, ever.
>
>Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
>
I'll second that!! I have almost every album they ever made on tape. And I
am slowly collecting the CD versions, too. ^_^
And I've never heard of the Barenaked Ladies myself. So there. :P
- -Logan
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:29:47 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
From: Tim Gilberg <gilberg@ou.edu>
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
> (Btw, did anyone else Stateside catch the interesting Canadian sitcom
> 'The Newsroom'? Wild, wild stuff.....)
Nope. Kids in the Hall fan, though.
And the Royal Canadian Air Farce.
Hmmm. And Basil Johnston is one of my favorite authors.
And isn't Margret Atwood from up 'dere?
-Tim Gilberg
-"English Majors of the World! Untie!"
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:29:46 -0800
From: "Filksinger" <filkhero@usa.net>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
From: Logan Darklighter <logand@cyberramp.net>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Surbrook <susano@otd.com>
>Cc: Champeens <champ-l@sysabend.org>
>Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 1:27 PM
>Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
>
>
>>On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Brian Wawrow wrote:
>>
>>> Three, many Americans think that the Barenaked Ladies are
>>> the best band from Canada, ever.
>>
>>Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
>>
>
>I'll second that!! I have almost every album they ever made on tape. And I
>am slowly collecting the CD versions, too. ^_^
>
>And I've never heard of the Barenaked Ladies myself. So there. :P
You've led a sheltered life.
Oh, you mean the _band_.
Filksinger
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:13:21 -0500
From: Ross Rannells <rossrannells@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: 4 lasers = one?
Bill Svitavsky wrote:
> At 11:35 AM 11/30/98 -0600, bobby farris wrote:
> > I am building a spaceship for a science fiction game and am
> >trying to figure out how to do a weapons system. The ship has 4 laser
> >cannons that can be fired together in one attack or seperately. How do I
> >buy this?
> > Is is two seperate attacks? Could it be one attack with Auto
> >Fire?
> >
> >
>
If you are building the ship as a vehicle (I hope), then by two attacks. On the
first
apply an additional 10 points to give you four or those attacks. There you have
your four laser cannons. On the second attack, apply a limitation that the
attack
most have all 4 of the other attacks combined. This assumes that the second
attack
is more then 2 damage classes above the first. If the second attack is only 2
DCs
above the first the use to old massed attack rule and just buy the four laser
cannons.
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:23:06 -0800 (PST)
From: shaw@caprica.com (Wayne Shaw)
Subject: Re: Supersonic Flight?
>I'd lay long odds that it is 5th Ed. Additionally, one of the supers from
>C:NM that is translated on the Hero website (I don't recall which one) has
>an extra cost to his Regeneration to purchase "Can regenerate limbs". At a
>guess, this is another one being added.
From what I've heard, yep, a lot of the Regen modifiers including the
'Regenerate from Death' one are going to be in. All those people wanting to
do Highlander games can be happy. :)
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:48:13 -0500
From: Ross Rannells <rossrannells@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Looser Villians
Telemarketer: Has only one attack, a sonic based flash with
lots of extended range and indirect.
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 23:10:17 -0600
From: Bryant Berggren <voxel@theramp.net>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
At 12:09 AM 12/1/98 -0800, Steven J. Owens wrote:
>(Btw, do Canadians still find the typical United State tourist's
>abrogation of "american" to refer solely to the lower chunk of the
>northern continent offensive? My favorite laugh when visiting was
>watching tourists ask "Do you take american money?" "Why yes we do,
>and we take United States money too.")
There shouldn't be anything offensive about it. "American" is the correct
term for a denizen of the United States of America, just as "Chinese" is a
perfectly valid term for a citizen from the People's Republic of China, etc.
If anything, the wierdness is that we use the term "U.S." as our "nation
name", when it doesn't actually specify the nation.
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 23:10:27 -0600
From: Bryant Berggren <voxel@theramp.net>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
At 12:09 AM 12/1/98 -0800, Steven J. Owens wrote:
>(Btw, do Canadians still find the typical United State tourist's
>abrogation of "american" to refer solely to the lower chunk of the
>northern continent offensive? My favorite laugh when visiting was
>watching tourists ask "Do you take american money?" "Why yes we do,
>and we take United States money too.")
There shouldn't be anything offensive about it. "American" is the correct
term for a denizen of the United States of America, just as "Chinese" is a
perfectly valid term for a citizen from the People's Republic of China, etc.
If anything, the wierdness is that we use the term "U.S." as our "nation
name", when it doesn't actually specify the nation.
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:45:48 EST
From: CptPatriot@aol.com
Subject: Re: 4 lasers = one?
Here's an idea no one has mentioned yet.
Assuming you have a computer in your ship, and this seems likely, have a
targeting program for each weapon firing in that phase.
The person assigns targets to the powered weapons and the computer controls
firing.
Archie
cptpatriot@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:23:52 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
At 07:02 PM 12/1/98 GMT, <owner-champ-l@sysabend.org> wrote:
>From: Michael Surbrook <susano@otd.com>
>cc: Champeens <champ-l@sysabend.org>
>Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
>
>On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Brian Wawrow wrote:
>
>> Three, many Americans think that the Barenaked Ladies are
>> the best band from Canada, ever.
>
>Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
Personally, I'd pick the Canadian Brass.
But that's just me. ;-]
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 00:57:28 EST
From: Firelynx16@aol.com
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
In a message dated 12/1/98 3:35:28 PM Central Standard Time,
oscartibor@yahoo.com writes:
>
> > On Tue, 1 Dec 1998, Brian Wawrow wrote:
> >
> > > Three, many Americans think that the Barenaked Ladies are
> > > the best band from Canada, ever.
> >
> > Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
> >
> > Michael Surbrook / susano@otd.com
> > http://www.otd.com/~susano/index.html
> > "'Cause I'm the god of destruction, that's why!" - Susano
> Orbatos,Orion
> >
>
> Mr. Surbrook is entirely correct. Rush is also one of the best bands
> ever to grace the music scene.
>
> Oscar The Insurance Man
While I agree Rush is a very good band, and a close second, the *real* best
band/musician from Canada is Sarah McLachlan. Absolute best live show.
Period. Triumph comes in third. Of course, this in IMHO.
Later,
'Lynx
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 03:09:13 EST
From: MWStrong@aol.com
Subject: CW
Where is the creation workshop list?
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:03:09 -0600
From: "Guy Hoyle" <ghoyle1@airmail.net>
Subject: Video Camera
I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a suitable
receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how to represent
this power in HS terms? Eidetic memory obviously plays a part, but I can't
figure out if Clairsentience fits in somehow.
Guy
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:06:48 -0500
From: "Michael Sprague" <msprague@eznet.net>
Subject: Re: Video Camera
Consider a creative use of Mind Link.
~ Mike
- -----Original Message-----
From: Guy Hoyle <ghoyle1@airmail.net>
To: champs-l@sysabend.org <champs-l@sysabend.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 6:12 AM
Subject: Video Camera
>I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a suitable
>receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how to represent
>this power in HS terms? Eidetic memory obviously plays a part, but I can't
>figure out if Clairsentience fits in somehow.
>
>Guy
>
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 04:33:08 -0800
From: Darrin Kelley <backflash@mindspring.com>
Subject: San Angelo
I just recieved my copy of San Angelo from the local comic book
store. And I got to scan it abit. And I just have to say this: I like
it. It looks very complete and concise.
The artwork (apart from the cover) is standard Champions fare. Same
artists from the line that have been at it for the last 5 years or more.
Some I care for, some I honestly do not.
The layout: This I liked alot. It is a vast improvement over what I
had been used to from previous Hero Games related books. And even from
the other GRG supplements I had seen.
Tthe book goes does a fairly indepth threatment of the background
and the major players in the city. As well as giving a good treatment of
the city itself. I really like this book.
Now as to the comparisons to Bay City. Bay City did some things that
San Angelo didn't. It game maps and descriptions to some of the major
landmarks. Which is great, because that sort of thing is very useful for
play purposes. I hope to see some more elaboration on major landmarks in
the future. Maybe even a book of just maps. A sort of San Angelo Atlas.
For the start of a new product line, this one is a very ambitious
start. I will be following it to see what happens down the road.
Note to Mark Arsenalt: GRG did good with this. I hope that you and
the rest of this company can keep things up to the standard this book
has set for your company. Actually, I hope your product quality goes
even beyond this. Keep up the good work.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:35:57 -0600
From: "Hudson, Robert" <x2rhudso@southernco.com>
Subject: RE: Video Camera
At 7:03 PM Dec 01 Guy Hoyle wrote:
>I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a
suitable
> receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how to
> represent
> this power in HS terms? Eidetic memory obviously plays a part, but I can't
> figure out if Clairsentience fits in somehow.
>
Actually, if you look at the description of 'High Range Radio
Hearing' it specifically states that the power allows for reception *and*
transmission on [among others] television bands. Most characters don't lug
the appropriate display gear around to take advantage of that, but your
android shouldn't have any problems with interpreting the data. No need to
create a new complex power at all.
Rob Hudson
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 08:04:39 -0600
From: redbf@ldd.net (bobby farris)
Subject: Takes No STUN
Can an automaton take the power Takes No STUN and then buy back
all of its stun to the point that it has 0 STUN?
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:49:44 -0600
From: redbf@ldd.net (bobby farris)
Subject: Re: Video Camera
Guy Hoyle wrote:
> I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a suitable
> receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how to represent
> this power in HS terms? Eidetic memory obviously plays a part, but I can't
> figure out if Clairsentience fits in somehow.
> Guy
It really depends on who is using the android. If the android is just
sending the signals back to a recording device then I would say it is Eidetic
Memory. If the android is just a lacky for someone else then I would say that
the other person has to buy Clairsentience with the special effect that it is
an android.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:19:38 -0500
From: Brian Wawrow <bwawrow@mondello.toronto.fmco.com>
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
Yup, Triumph is 100% Canadian content. Acting as Alex Tribec [also a
Canadian] while you yanks take Canadian Music for $800 is loads and
loads of fun but it might be off topic and boring the rest of the list.
Has anyone in the U.S. heard of a Toronto band called RagaDeath? Their
biggest single was called "One Life to Live". Anyone?
] Isn't Triumph Canadienne, er, Canadian. (Sorry,
] French class memories.)
]
]
] -Tim gilberg
]
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 09:21:09 -0500
From: Bill Svitavsky <nbymail11@mln.lib.ma.us>
Subject: Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
At 05:29 AM 12/1/98 -0800, Wayne Shaw wrote:
>>
>>Jesse's referring to an unfortunate incident in a game we played in
>>together a little while ago. I still think my character inexplicably
>>shooting an ally in the back merely because I rolled an 18 was overly
>>harsh. My character was *not* incompetent with a bow, and a bad roll merely
>>indicates bad luck or a mistake - not momentary incompetence. I wouldn't
>>have objected to a broken bow string, or even to a teammate moving
>>unexpectedly into the path of my arrow, but an unexplained "you shoot him
>>in the back" seemed a bit cruel to me. (On my first attack of the campaign,
>>no less.)
>
>Well, that sounds more like insufficient explanation of why it happened than
>an unreasonable call. Easiest reason would have been a gust of wind.
>
Yes, that would have been reasonable. Unexplained, it just made my
character look completely incompetent.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:35:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Ell Egyptoid <egyptoid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
>Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
Perhaps. If you like them.
Here's how I build Rush:
1d6 Sonic Flash, Area Effect (Stadium), Continuous,
Uncontrolled, Trigger, Armor Piercing, Penetrating,
Auto-Fire, Increased Stun Multiplier, Penetrating,
Selective Fire, Indirect, No Normal Defense.
but hey it's a matter of taste. :)
==
Laissez le bon pim roulez! Elliott aka Egyptoid
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:53:06 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: Takes No STUN
At 08:04 AM 12/2/98 -0600, bobby farris wrote:
> Can an automaton take the power Takes No STUN and then buy back
>all of its stun to the point that it has 0 STUN?
No. If it has the "Takes No STUN" Power, then it no longer has a STUN
Characteristic to sell back.
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 06:49:49 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: CW
At 03:09 AM 12/2/98 EST, MWStrong@aol.com wrote:
>Where is the creation workshop list?
That's a good question -- and one I posted about a month ago, as I was
first recovering from my computer crashing, twice, without response. So
even though I'm on it, apparently nobody's written to it in that time, nor
does anyone on this list have the address handy.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:57:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Curt Hicks <exucurt@exu.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but one of the things I've
wished GM's would check is "does the character 'tread on' another character's
shtick ? Does the character have something that makes it unique ?"
Curt
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:54:29 -0600
From: redbf@ldd.net (bobby farris)
Subject: Re: CW
Bob Greenwade wrote:
> At 03:09 AM 12/2/98 EST, MWStrong@aol.com wrote:
> >Where is the creation workshop list?
>
> That's a good question -- and one I posted about a month ago, as I was
> first recovering from my computer crashing, twice, without response. So
> even though I'm on it, apparently nobody's written to it in that time, nor
> does anyone on this list have the address handy.
Word from Bruce Harlick is that there was going to be one, but at the present
date there isn't one.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:59:28 -0600 (CST)
From: Rick Jones <rick@blkbox.com>
Subject: Re: Video Camera
Guy Hoyle wrote:
> I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a suitable
> receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how to represent
> this power in HS terms? Eidetic memory obviously plays a part, but I can't
> figure out if Clairsentience fits in somehow.
My homebrew rule is someone with Mind Link or HRRH can add a sense link at
the cost of "+5 pts/sense of +10 pts/sense group".
I.E. Joe Telepath has Mind Link costing whatever(the book's at home). He
can "talk" on the mental chat line, or for +5 pts send what he's seeing.
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:04:49 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: Video Camera
At 07:03 PM 12/1/98 -0600, Guy Hoyle wrote:
>I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a suitable
>receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how to represent
>this power in HS terms? Eidetic memory obviously plays a part, but I can't
>figure out if Clairsentience fits in somehow.
I'd just call it a modified form of High Range Radio Hearing (which is
actually High Range Radio Transceiving). The Modifiers I'd use would be
Transmit Only (-1), Only to Transmit What the Character Sees and Hears
(-1/4). (This last is only a Limitation in that the character must speak
out loud to communicate or transmit other data.)
Of course, that assumes that anyone could have a receiver suitable for
picking up the transmission. If the system is proprietary, use Mind Link.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:17:49 -0600
From: "Guy Hoyle" <ghoyle1@airmail.net>
Subject: CW patches
Any idea where I can find the CW patches?
Guy
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:14:06 -0600 (CST)
From: gilberg@ou.edu
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
>Yup, Triumph is 100% Canadian content. Acting as Alex Tribec [also a
>Canadian] while you yanks take Canadian Music for $800 is loads and
>loads of fun but it might be off topic and boring the rest of the list.
Ya think? It's been kinda dead lately, and since when have we
stayed on task?
And you're willing to claim Trebec?
Anyway. I need to make it up to Calagary to visit a friend who
escaped Illinois for that fair city. ("And I leave my entire fortune of 10
million dollars to the people of Calagary so they can afford to move
somewhere decent." Name the comedy group and title.) Meanwhile, I escaped
Illinois for...Oklahoma. I think I got the lesser deal.
>Has anyone in the U.S. heard of a Toronto band called RagaDeath? Their
>biggest single was called "One Life to Live". Anyone?
Nope.
BTW, Is it snowing in the ghettos of Toronto? (Old inside joke with
friend who is now in Calgary.)
-Tim Gilberg
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:44:05 -0600 (CST)
From: Rick Jones <rick@blkbox.com>
Subject: need ninja
I'm going to be throwing a zillion ninja or so against my PC's. Are
there any good books with pre-generated ninjas (or other sorts of generic
goons) so I don't have to spend more time with my spreadsheets?
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:51:21 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: RE: A new player in the arena...
At 09:19 AM 12/2/98 -0500, Brian Wawrow wrote:
>Yup, Triumph is 100% Canadian content. Acting as Alex Tribec [also a
>Canadian] while you yanks take Canadian Music for $800 is loads and
>loads of fun but it might be off topic and boring the rest of the list.
>
>Has anyone in the U.S. heard of a Toronto band called RagaDeath? Their
>biggest single was called "One Life to Live". Anyone?
I've neverheard of them, but then again most of my musical interest
centers on contemporary Christian (mostly Carman and dc Talk) and classical.
And yes, Alex *Trebek* is Canadian, as are Rich Little, William Shatner,
Lenonard Nimoy, Harold Ramis, Dave Thomas (the comic actor, not the Wendy's
guy), Rick Moranis, Laurie Hibberd, and probably a truckload of other
celebs of various levels of fame and popularity that just I'm not thinking
of right now.
And I agree that this is a bit off topic; the only reason I jumped in at
all was because you misspelled Alex Trebek's name.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:41:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Jason A. Dour" <jason@dour.org>
Subject: Re: CW
On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, bobby farris wrote:
> Word from Bruce Harlick is that there was going to be one, but at the
> present date there isn't one.
There *IS* a CW list...generally inactive, but it exists nonetheless.
Unfortunately, I don't have the address handy... I'll post it this
evening if no one else steps up before then...
ta,
Jason
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 11:55:02 -0600
From: redbf@ldd.net (bobby farris)
Subject: Re: CW patches
Guy Hoyle wrote:
> Any idea where I can find the CW patches?
> Guy
The only place that I know of is the Hero Games website. They have a
patch updating CW to 1.4. They also have a patch updating Fuzion
Template to 1.4 and the Hero Template to 1.4b. However, if you recently
bought the Hero Template I think it is already 1.4b.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:39:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Ell Egyptoid <egyptoid@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Video Camera
I've seen:
HiRes Radio Hearing, with Var.SFX
and
Mind-Link vs. Electronics w/Var.SFX
to simulate sending/receiving from various formats.
Eidetic Memory comes in later, when/if you are recording the
data/video/audio.
Are you sending a TV signal that overrides current reception
or is the TV signal being sent to a dedicated monitor system?
Images might be necessary, if you're capable of controlling
what someone else's CRT emits.
==
Laissez le bon pim roulez! Elliott aka Egyptoid
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:12:51 -0800
From: "James Jandebeur" <james@javaman.to>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
>Here's how I build Rush:
>1d6 Sonic Flash, Area Effect (Stadium), Continuous,
> Uncontrolled, Trigger, Armor Piercing, Penetrating,
> Auto-Fire, Increased Stun Multiplier, Penetrating,
> Selective Fire, Indirect, No Normal Defense.
Huh? Armor Piercing on a 1d6 Flash? Increased Stun Multiple and Penetrating
on any flash? And NND on top of those? That can't be right...
(-;
JAJ, GP
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:22:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Surbrook <susano@otd.com>
Subject: Re: need ninja
On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Rick Jones wrote:
> I'm going to be throwing a zillion ninja or so against my PC's. Are
> there any good books with pre-generated ninjas (or other sorts of generic
> goons) so I don't have to spend more time with my spreadsheets?
Watchers of the Dragon has some goons and thugs. Ninja Hero has some good
low-end Ninja
Michael Surbrook / susano@otd.com
http://www.otd.com/~susano/index.html
"'Cause I'm the god of destruction, that's why!" - Susano Orbatos,Orion
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:02:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Surbrook <susano@otd.com>
Subject: Re: A new player in the arena...
On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Ell Egyptoid wrote:
> >Nope. Rush is the best band from Canada. Ever.
> Perhaps. If you like them.
Yes. Rush is composed of three of the best rock musicians ever to get
together in one band.
> Here's how I build Rush:
> 1d6 Sonic Flash, Area Effect (Stadium), Continuous,
> Uncontrolled, Trigger, Armor Piercing, Penetrating,
> Auto-Fire, Increased Stun Multiplier, Penetrating,
> Selective Fire, Indirect, No Normal Defense.
>
> but hey it's a matter of taste. :)
Unhunh... that sounds more like the Rolling Stones... or about 8 zillion
rap groups... or Marylin Manson or...
And besides, you built the power wrong...
Michael Surbrook / susano@otd.com
http://www.otd.com/~susano/index.html
"'Cause I'm the god of destruction, that's why!" - Susano Orbatos,Orion
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:18:37 -0800
From: "James Jandebeur" <james@javaman.to>
Subject: Re: CW
>> >Where is the creation workshop list?
>Word from Bruce Harlick is that there was going to be one, but at the
present
>date there isn't one.
There certainly was one: let me check my back mail.
I do not know what the subscription address is, but I do have the mailing
address for it. However, it has been some time since I got mail from it as
well, so it may be gone now.
The address for the list is:
cw@mars.galstar.com
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 14:45:59 -0500
From: geoff heald <gheald@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: CW
At 06:49 AM 12/2/98 -0800, you wrote:
>At 03:09 AM 12/2/98 EST, MWStrong@aol.com wrote:
>>Where is the creation workshop list?
>
cw@mars.galstar.com
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Date: 02 Dec 1998 12:43:48 -0500
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
Subject: Re: Takes No STUN
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:16:06 -0600
From: "Guy Hoyle" <ghoyle1@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: CW patches
Well, if it's there, it's very well hidden. I looked around for half an
hour and couldn't find 'em. It's genberally pretty tough to find product
info there, I think.
Guy
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> From: bobby farris <redbf@ldd.net>
> To: Champions mailing list <champs-l@sysabend.org>
> Subject: Re: CW patches
> Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 11:55 AM
>
> Guy Hoyle wrote:
>
> > Any idea where I can find the CW patches?
> > Guy
>
> The only place that I know of is the Hero Games website. They have a
> patch updating CW to 1.4. They also have a patch updating Fuzion
> Template to 1.4 and the Hero Template to 1.4b. However, if you recently
> bought the Hero Template I think it is already 1.4b.
>
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:36:09 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: CW patches
At 11:17 AM 12/2/98 -0600, Guy Hoyle wrote:
>Any idea where I can find the CW patches?
If you mean the update files, they should be available from the Hero
Games website (http://www.herogames.com).
(Others will probably answer ahead of me and with better information,
but I thought I'd throw in my reply just to be sure.) :-]
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:47:12 -0500
From: Bill Svitavsky <nbymail11@mln.lib.ma.us>
Subject: Re: CHARACTER DESIGN CHECKLIST
At 09:57 AM 12/2/98 -0600, Curt Hicks wrote:
>
>
>Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but one of the things I've
>wished GM's would check is "does the character 'tread on' another character's
>shtick ? Does the character have something that makes it unique ?"
Good point.
Moreover, a character can tread on others' shtick's in two ways - by being
too much alike, and by being too different. As you observe, a character who
shares too much of the abilities and/or style of another character can take
away from the other's distinctiveness. But a character whose style is
drastically inconsistent with others in the group (say, a slapstick
character in a group of gritty vigilantes) can be just as damaging.
This can be a real GM judgment call. Shared abilities and style can also
give a unifying style to a group, and oddball characters can make a great
foil for the others. The trick is drawing the line at what's too much
alike, and what's too different.
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 09:35:55 -0800
From: Bob Greenwade <bob.greenwade@klock.com>
Subject: Re: CW
At 10:54 AM 12/2/98 -0600, bobby farris wrote:
>Bob Greenwade wrote:
>
>> At 03:09 AM 12/2/98 EST, MWStrong@aol.com wrote:
>> >Where is the creation workshop list?
>>
>> That's a good question -- and one I posted about a month ago, as I was
>> first recovering from my computer crashing, twice, without response. So
>> even though I'm on it, apparently nobody's written to it in that time, nor
>> does anyone on this list have the address handy.
>
>Word from Bruce Harlick is that there was going to be one, but at the present
>date there isn't one.
That's very interesting, considering that I saw more than one
conversation on the Creation Workshop mailing list just before my crash,
and even took part in one of them.
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Date: 02 Dec 1998 12:47:41 -0500
From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
Subject: Re: Video Camera
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GH> I have an android who can transmit whatever he sees and hears to a
GH> suitable receiver; in other words, he's a TV transmitter. Any idea how
GH> to represent this power in HS terms?
High-range Radio Transmission (and reception), which includes TV
transmissions.
GH> Eidetic memory obviously plays a part,
Only if you have a recorder.
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